Episode 6 transcript

  H- Hi, my name's Holly 

A- And I'm Amy, 

H- and you are listening to 

A- You Okay?

H- with Holly and Amy, 

A-the podcast where we keep you company on long drives and solo dinners, 

H- giving you the gal pals you never knew you needed. 

A- Hello, holly, Hosler-White. 

H- Hello, Amy Trigg 

A- Holly, 

H- yes?

A- are you okay? 

H- Oh, you sound so concerned, are you okay? I've had a lot of coffee and sugar today

A- have you? 

H- Yeah

A- I couldn't tell!

H- could you not? From my jittering about your bungalow. Do you know what? I've been at work all day. 

When we're going to do a record, I usually I'll have a coffee like later in the day, later than I usually would Just get through it. And 

A- okay?!

H- I don't mean it like that. I don't mean it like that. I don't mean it like that Because you're will, you're not. You know I'd never leave. 

A- So, um, this is why I serve you very small dinner portions. I'm like she's gonna have a reason to leave.

H- just like I'm starving. I die about. You always worry about your dinner portions and they're always fine. 

A- They stress me out. I follow the instructions. I serve them up. It doesn't look like enough. 

H- You shouldn't read the packaging. 

A- You got to admit that Gnocchi. It was a small portion

H- but we also have carrots and garlic bread. Yeah, it's fine, it was great, I very much enjoyed it. You, okay? 

A- 'm fine, I'm truly fine. I mean you were saying your coffee. 

H- I've had coffee. I've had jelly tots. I've had four of them. 

A- Jelly tots, jelly tots are the best. 

H- Are they vegan? That's good to know. And yeah, I just, I'm very excitable. But also I'm excited about this episode. I think it's gonna be fun. 

A- I'm a little bit nervous. 

H- Why? 

A- Because I don't know what to expect. 

H- Okay, so this episode, we've basically asked people for questions and we're just going to answer them. I've read a few. 

A- Did they cross a line? 

H- None of the ones that I've read cross a line, apart from one. 

A- You said that was such a huge grin on your face. 

H- I'm so excited because, like, if there is anything juicy, I feel like it brings Amy. Amy is going to have to be naughty and it's funny. 

A- You were saying earlier that your mum described us as what? Did she describe us as 

H- Well? We're like the Josh and Rob, looseneck and Stifneck. 

A- So which one am I? Stifneck? 

H- Yeah, but I'm Josh and Rob. Josh, josh, you're definitely Josh Widdicombe and I'm definitely Rob Beckett, yeah, yeah. So there you go, but mum just said that you curb me. 

A- I'm like enough, holly, think about our futures. Do not get cancelled today. Holly. 

H- Amy Trigg

A- yes.

H- are you okay? 

A- I am. 

But firstly I'd just like to point out I get so nervous when I'm the one who not nervous nervous is the wrong word but when I have to start this off by me being the first one to ask you if you're okay, I always feel like I'm up. 

H- You feel like you're going to forget. 

A- I just I don't know whether I call you by your full name or just your first name or second time around, it matters to me. 

H- Okay, well, I usually go. Amy Trigg. 

A- Yes, 

H- are you okay? 

A- See, I just said Holly earlier. 

H- Yeah, you said Holly, and then you looked so distressed that I answered. 

A- I panicked. 

H- You watch, we'll get to season two and we'll look back at this series and be like Jesus Christ what children we were, what babies of the podcast universe. Aside from that, yeah, are you okay? 

A- I am okay. I had a bit of a mind blank. Yeah, just now, because just before we started recording, I knew that we were going to ask each other how we were

H- because that is the premise of the podcast. 

A- That's how it goes. Yeah, I hadn't prepared. So I had to turn around to Holly and be like when was the last time we recorded? And he was like what day? 

H- Friday

A- friday. And then I was like what did I do Saturday? And you were like 

H- family barbecue. 

A- I was like, cool, what did I do Sunday? 

H- You were at Crescent Temple Barnes and we got our Tarots read

A- I talk about that. I just forgot about everything that had happened, just anything that's happened in our lives. 

H- Tell me about your Tarot reading properly, because, to be honest, you've not actually fully properly told me. You sent me like a two minute voice note. 

A- Yes, I went to Crescent Temple Barnes where there was a food and craft fair on food and drink

H- food and craft I don't know, you were there longer than me. 

A- It was a fair. There was more drink than craft. I will say that A lot of Gin, lots of moonshine. 

Mum said what's moonshine? And I was like, don't really know, Lorri, but I don't think it's for us.

H- No, no, the man that was selling the moonshine was very attractive

A- was he? 

H- Yeah, I got a little sample of moonshine. I was with my dad. Like go away, dad, 

A- john, something Holly style, absolutely, and I text you or something, yeah, and I was like, oh, get my Tarot cards read. It was like I sent out the bat signal yeah, because you and your mum and dad zoomed over to Crescent Temple, barnes, to get your Tarot reading. 

H- Well, we were looking for something to do and I was like, oh, amy's had her Tarot read. Apparently there's something happening at Crescent. So we shot over there. It was the same lady as last time. She remembered me. She didn't remember my reading, but she remembered me Interesting, which I mean it's understandable. I doubt she remembers the readings from earlier that day so much. 

But tell me about your reading. 

A- Oh, yeah, sorry, I got distracted. And so I went in and I knew that you'd had your Tarot cards read before and I wasn't quite sure how invested, how much I believed. But I thought I'm going to go in, but I'm not going to tell her anything, I'm giving her nothing. Yeah, she needs to get this herself. So I, when she was like, do you want a general reading, do you have a specific question? I panicked because obviously I'm free and decisive. So I was like, oh, so many questions, just a general spine. And then she started and I was giving her nothing. She was asking questions I was giving her a little bit. Later on I did regret. I was a little bit like, maybe I could have given her a little bit more open, but I was open. I just didn't want to give her details because I wanted to come away fully believe in it and not being like, oh, it's probably because I said that, yeah, whereas what I did, I didn't give her anything and she gave me some very specific things, which was wild because I literally said nothing. It was mostly about career and work and I won't go massively into specifics because that's between me and my Tarot card reader. Okay, they say a lot, don't they? 

H- Oh, so it goes on Like not that it goes on like a bad thing, but you pay for 20 minutes, but I was there for like 35. 

A- Were you? 

H- Yeah, we were like proper chatting. I had a loved one.

A- you had a loved one, yeah, so, and yours was specific. 

H- Then Mine was like very specific.

A- that's wild. 

H- Yeah, she was like pulling dates out. 

A- That's scary

H- that's what. Wild like, because she basically was there, like when you're about. She did a birth chart for me

A- oh, so did you have more of an astrology read in there? 

H- No, I had a tarot and it was basically like she turned the cause. Everyone was like this is the job they'll have, this is what they'll physically look like, this is how you will meet them, or if you'll meet, like, if you how you will meet them, or if you've already met them, how you'll meet them and when things will, like, begin. And you've already told me all the answers. Yeah, I'm not gonna, but it's between me and the moon. And then she did like a tarot thing and then my mom had a reading as well. My mom said she came away and wished that she had been a bit more open, because I'm very open to these things. I'm there like, yeah, let's do it. 

A- Great, me and Alison can go back together. 

H- Yeah. But I'm there like things don't work unless you do. I believe in like putting things out to the universe, but you have to work your ass off as well. You can't do so far. I've said it before Manifestation doesn't work unless you do. But she gave my mom like a whole sheet about the new moon and like to do this like ritual. So we did it Like you've done 

A- so cool. 

H- We had like a bonfire. We were burning shit. It's great. 

A- What were you burning? 

H- You write down your manifestation and then you burn it apparently. 

A- Oh, that's cool. 

H- I don't know how much I believe it, but I like a fire. No, I like that. 

A- We used to do that camp on the last day. We used to write something down and then burn it. 

H- Oh, that's cute. 

A- Yeah, it was really cool. 

H- I mean, I don't know if it works, but it says in the sheet that you have to fire. It says that you have to keep it between you and the moon. 

A- Oh, okay, so I can't ask any questions. 

H- No, it's between me and Luna. 

A- It's so interesting. Maybe we. Well, actually, your birthday present to me was a tarot card reading. Yes, so when I check that in, I'm gonna be really specific. I might ask for a love reading, because your one blew my mind. 

H- I'm gonna ask for a career one next. 

A- Oh, so we basically switched. 

H- Yeah, we'll switcharoo. 

A- Yeah, because also, the other thing she said about my career, which was related, was to look after myself. 

H- Yeah, right, okay, can we talk about the fact that I literally Amy it was like something from a romcom, amy's words, not mine because Amy turned around and then I was just like sat on a picnic bench on like this little patch of grass and Amy was like, oh my God, it's Holly. 

A- I didn't realize you were there at that point. 

H- No, she checked her phone, had a text from me, looked up and there I was. It was beautiful, it was a really nice moment and my mum was having her reading at the time and was there. Like I knew you and Amy found each other because I could hear you behind me. 

A- I have a slow motion running towards you. 

H- Yeah, we were a good like 50 meters away from my mum and like my mum was like oh, holly and Amy have found each other because I can hear them both. And I was there like so what did your tarot card reader say? That to continue working hard but also look after yourself. And Amy was there like, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, your mum found it hilarious though. 

A- Yeah, well, she says the same thing because I am a little bit. Yeah, and it was wild because she was saying about how all my work has been quite solo and a lot of the pressure of my creative project. I didn't mention anything about creativity I've been on my shoulders. So when I'm writing although you know you got script editors and producers and people like that chipping in. You do spend a lot of time on your own. You just write in. But she said you're about to go into a creative, new, creative adventure with a group of people so you can share that and you're ready and your self-confidence is in the right place. All this stuff and I was like, oh, 

H- it does make me Giggle that. Like Amy, it's been announced what you're doing next. But you're there like

A- oh, yeah

H- you're allowed to talk about it. She literally goes into rehearsals on Monday it's currently Wednesday. It's been announced weeks ago that she's doing this project, but Amy's forgotten that it's been announced. Tell them what you're doing, girl. 

A- This is why you can always trust me with a secret. 

H- Oh, my goodness, yeah, because you forget. 

A- You might as well call me N D Amy. Wait, N D Amy. That's so cute, andy Amy. I love it. Oh, N D Amy, N D Amy. What does that mean? Does that mean something? It feels like it means something. 

H- There she is, N D Amy. Okay, we'll work on the nickname. 

A- Yeah, yeah, so I go into rehearsals for a musical because the little big things and it's so. It's like exciting to be going into a group project. I'm very excited. 

H- Where's it at, amy? 

A- Theater Soho place in London

H- and when does it run to and from? 

A- God, this is like a publicity thing. 

H- I mean we have at least 30 listeners, so 30 tickets sold. 

A- We open on September 2nd. Yes, how exciting, very exciting. So my tarot reading was pretty much all about that. Very much. So, right, ready, yeah, start with a good one. 

H- Oh, who is your biggest celebrity crush? 

A- Biggest celebrity crush? Do you have one off the top of your head? 

H- I don't think I do. I mean, I really like Pedro Pascal. 

A- You do love Pedro Pascal. 

H- I love Pedro Pascal. 

A- He's had many a shout out for his podcast. 

H- I know we're the guys that made him big. 

A- You're welcome, pedro. 

Yeah, big celebrity crush. I don't know whether I've currently got one, but I'm trying to think of. Historically, I must have had one. Oh, yeah, have I? Have I Holly? Just tell me the answer, please. I love it. 

H- Can you think of a celebrity crush that you've had? Do you have? Probably someone from SNL? I know who my biggest celebrity crush is and this goes against one of my ex, marcelo. 

A- Oh my gosh. Yeah, oh, I'll take him as well. Who's my celebrity crush? I love him. Yeah, I love him Honestly. Yeah, I do like following him on Instagram. 

H- Now the Weekend Update where he talks about baseball. 

A- Yeah, oh, my God, love him. Love him, okay. Yeah, I'm going to go with him as well. I don't know whether I'm not committing to any celebrity crush, so if anyone else wants to drop in, send me some suppression, 

H- Brett goldstein? 

A- Yeah, he's a good one for you. Love a bit of Goldstein. 

H- Yeah, a good one for you. 

A- I'm just saying that he's more your type.

H- He is and all my type is very me, that's all Right. 

Next one this is going to be another - Is following a football team a red flag or an ick? 

A- I don't think it's a red flag. I can understand why some people find it an IK. 

H- I don't think it's either. For me personally, 

A- no, neither. 

H- If you follow a football team, great. If you don't, fine. 

A- I do sometimes get a little bit icky around when normally men, when they do football chants and they make their voices so much lower, and then it is naturally and I'm like what are you trying to impress? You're singing like we're forever blubbing bubbles. We're forever blubbing bubbles. She's your natural voice. That's sometimes big. 

H- If You're a falsetto. You're a falsetto, it's fine. Don't quite it. It's just going to do nothing good for your voice, babe. 

A- It's talking nods yours. 

H- You're going to get nods yours. 

A- So, yeah, I think it's neither, but I wouldn't say it's a red flag. It might be an IK, but it's not a red flag. 

H- How to come to terms with growing apart from friends? 

A- Oh, I think it's like a breakup. I think it is a breakup. 

H- Yeah, it's like you have to treat it like one. Yeah, you just have to like, reflect, feel it. So much happens in your lives and like you can't always be as close as you were. It doesn't mean that you won't come back together, but I think you also can't expect that to happen. You need to live away from that person. 

A- Yeah, but also, as we get older, we do struggle to find time. Some of my closest, dearest friends are people that I don't see all the time and I will forget to reply to their texts and sometimes I feel like an awful friend. But they mean the world to me and if they need me I would drop everything. 

So I think also, are you losing the friendship or is the friendship just evolving? Is it just adulthood, something like the next phase of that friendship or life? Oh my God, I mean it's not so smart who, dididry who. But it's true though. It is very true. I do think friendship is evolving and I think there's something really beautiful about working hard at a friendship in the same way that you would a romantic relationship. If there's still something there that is special that you want to keep hold of, just accepting that that might change and you might need a bit of space from each other. I think that's really healthy to work at a friendship. Yeah, 100%. 

H- You basically said everything I want to say, but more eloquently than I ever could. 

A- You're welcome.

H- Thank you, amy Trigg, and that's how the friendship works. 

Yeah, who was your first celebrity crush? I know who. Mine is the first celebrity crush. 

A- Who was yours? 

H- Matt Bainton, 

A- oh, from horrible histories. From horrible histories.

H- specifically when he's dressed as Dick Turpin. I've had a Type for a very long time. 

A- How old were you? 

H- Ten

A- ten, okay, I love it. 

H- I love a tall, slightly gangly man with a good sense of humour. 

A- She knew what she wanted earlier on. 

H- Yeah, earlier on. 

A- She would go in at it, literally just there.

H- they're like find me a silly man who's a little bit tall. 

A- I think mine was probably something related to Busted, probably James Bourne's. Oh yeah, I think, like most women my age, yeah

H- I liked Charlie. 

A- I mean, I probably wouldn't have said no to any of them. I mean I was probably ten just to get away from it. I wouldn't have said no to any of them

H- I would hope they would. 

A- Yeah, at the time, that would have been inappropriate, very weird. Still we could have been friends. Oh, 100% 

H- no, still would have been weird. Still would have been weird. 

A- Just, still would have been weird. Gosh, that's sad. 

H- This is a movie that irrationally makes you angry. I think mine might be Titanic. 

A- You don't like Titanic. 

H- It's not like I don't like Titanic, I'm just like, just fucking like, oh, you've known each other for about two minutes. There's room for him on there. You're probably going to die anyway. So If I fuck off Celine Like I don't, not Celine, no, just the song, not Celine. 

A- Very nice

H- I see it Irrationally angry. 

A- Yeah, okay, that was a good answer. I don't think any film would be so. 

H- Also Avatar- 

A- avatar, what's the first one? 

H- Yeah, second one I haven't seen because the first. 

A- I ain't shown this shit in ever jump because it makes me so angry in the first.

H- No, yeah, avatar

A- interesting. 

H- Like Sigourney Weaver, you're better than this babe. Why are you blue? 

A- She is. Why are they blue? Was that explained?

 H- Was that ever mentioned? 

A- it must be to do with with camouflage. it's how things evolve, isn't it?

H- Yeah, but they're not evolving though, because they're basically AI that you get plugged in to. 

A- Hang on a minute. No, they're AI. but the people there like going to visit

H- yeah, but you're like plugged into them. It's just your brain. 

A- Yeah, but they're blue those. 

H- So they've just been created by a computer.

A- No, no, no, no, no, no, Holly

H- what? I don't understand it. 

A- It's been a while since I watched Avatar, but those lot 

H- What, the blue ones?

A- So the blue, are they called Avatar?

H-  but its an avatar They're an Avatar. 

 

A - No, no, no, maybe they're not called Avatar. They're not called Avatar. 

H- But why is it called Avatar then? 

A- It's two different sets of people. 

H- I know that!

A- So, yeah, sigourney Weaver, she plugs herself in and she becomes the Avatar. 

H- Yes, not real. No, she lives in an AI world. That's a blue thing

A- hang on a minute. No, but they're going to become like the ones that they're visiting the people that they're going to visit, that Sully ends up staying with

H- oh, because he loves the girl. 

A- Yeah, they're not AI, they're not avatars. They're real creatures

H- are they? 

A-I'm pretty sure, but I can't be certain. 

H- Look, every single piece of certainty just disappeared from your eyes as you said that 

A- it's been a while since I've watched it and I haven't watched a new one yet. 

H- Anyway, irrationally angry

A- that was very. 

H- I don't know who asked that question. 

A- Brilliant question

H- amy Trig, what film makes you irrationally angry? 

A- I can't match that up. No, because I don't think there's any film that makes me irrationally angry. 

H- There must be a film that you're there like. This is a stupid premise. That's like big and you're there like what. 

A- I tell you what? I don't watch any Shrek movies. After two, you can't get better than Shrek two. 

H- How does it make you feel that they might make you? Is it sick? I'm trying to rattle her up here. 

A- I just don't. I'm not angry, just disappointed, disappointed. 

H- Biggest pet hate?

A-  Bad manners. Oh yeah, do you want me to mouth open when people don't cover their mouths when they sneeze? Oh, cough.

H- yeah, hate that, come on, hate that Even before the pandemic. 

A- Like you, learn that from a small child. Come on, lads, do it into your elbow or a tissue or hold it in yeah, don't you hand, as long as you sanitize after, sanitize it afterwards. 

H- Yeah, this is long Thought on long abroad weddings. I have one from my friend next year for multiple days in Europe. It's going to be so expensive Flights, accommodation, multiple outfits are present, etc. But I can't and don't want to say no. 

A- Are there ways of doing it cheaper, like if it's spread across all the days, all the days? Yeah, I wonder if you can make an excuse and just be like I can only come out for the ceremony, 

H- but then you're almost like paying the same amount for flights but less time. 

A- But it depends what's costing the money. 

H- Yeah, true 

A- if you can get a cheap flight and just stay one or two nights in a hotel, yeah, that's personally what I would do. 

H- Yeah, or you could stay in a different hotel from other people If, like the hotel that everyone's staying in is too expensive. Maybe that means you're like away from the group a bit more

A- but I think that's fine. And I because I think if you're having a wedding abroad, you shouldn't I don't think you should be forced no, you should be forced in anyone to stay in a particular place. 

H- Multiple outfits, vintage Look shop in your own wardrobe, shop in your friend's wardrobes Definitely A present. I would say if it was my wedding and I was having it abroad and people had made the effort, I would not expect a present. I don't think you need to go there if you're spending that much money on the Like a token gift. Yeah, just keeping it from the sale or something. Yeah, exactly. 

A- Or make it. 

H- Or make it, yeah.

oh my God, top five movies. We've talking animals in Top five. 

A- Okay, all right, could it be animated? Of course it can. They're talking animals. Yeah, I love Zootopia. 

H- Not seen it. 

A- Racing stripes Very good, that count. 

H- nemo, oh, nemo!

A- oh, I might have Nemo. 

H- We can have the same. We're gonna have Nemo. Okay, does Monsters Inc count or are they monsters? 

A- I would say they don't. It doesn't count because they're not. 

H- Oh, oliver Company Okay, you have that one. 

A- I won't have Oliver Company. 

H- Is that what you were about to say? 

A- No, I wasn't 

H- gonna say that we're allowed to share Oliver Company. 

A- I don't want Oliver Company. I'm sorry. No offense against the movie, but it's just not in my top five, okay, okay. However, I've forgotten what it's called. 

H- What's it got in it? 

A- Pets

H- hundred and One Dalmations

A- no, pets, pets, pets. Someone's listening to this and knows exactly what I'm talking about. 

H- I'm sad that I don't. 

A- the Secret Life of Pets 

H- oh, yep, yep, yep!

A- I love that.

H- the dog doesn't talk. In the one with Tom Hanks, does he, where he's a policeman, 

A- turner Hooch? No, it doesn't talk From. I don't think he does. 

H- No, turner Hooch don't talk. Turner does, hooch doesn't. Arista. Cats

A- oh, very good. Yeah, I might lose Little Mermaid because I don't know whether it totally fits to breathe Of being that animal. 

H- Those are literally crabs that talk. 

A- Yeah, but I've got two other ones that I want. Okay, well, tell me the cat's fine. Okay, well, just give me a moment. Oh, yeah, yeah, country One Dalmatians Great, well, yeah, I feel like I have to have that because my cuddly toy that sits on my bed and goes everywhere with me is called Lucky. Yeah, and then Homeward Bound. 

H- What's your biggest regret? Regrets? I've had a few. I think I know what mine is. 

A- I try not to have regrets. I know that everything happens for a reason. 

H- Yeah, a wish I had auditioned for musical theatre courses as well as acting courses. 

A- So you've only recently started thinking that?

H- yeah, like I wish I had had more confidence when I was younger to sing, because now I'm comfortable in my voice and like I would quite like to go on to do musical theatre in some capacity. I know I'm not a dancer, but I'm an actor, singer, one of those. 

A- So, yeah, you can. Yeah, yeah, you can do it all. 

H- quadruple threat. 

A- Holly, I am struggling with the regret question because I'm like you, I try really hard not to have regrets. Yeah, and there's a Nora Ephron quote on regrets. 

H- Oh, episode two. 

A- I know, shout out to episode two, I'm going to find it. This is Nora Ephron. 

I can make a case that I regret nothing. After all, most of my mistakes turned out to be things I survived or turned into funny stories or, on occasion, even made money from, and then I love that. There's more to it, that quote. So I always think about that like some of the things that I've regretted in the past I've like turned into art and stuff that's so nice. 

H- Oh well, reasons

A- yeah, exactly, yeah, reasons. 

H- You shouldn't love me, by the way. We're just promoting you left, right and centre. 

A- But there are things that I regret. Yeah, but I regret mostly less things about me and I panic if I didn't handle things well yeah, I know you do. 

H- That's like a massive thing that Amy and I talk about. Amy and I talk about a lot is things that Amy's like I should have done this. I should have done that different. I think you worry so much about other people. 

A- Yeah, because it's not really anything related to me and I think that's something I have to keep reminding myself. Yeah, what's done is done. What's done is done. 

H- Worst drunk experience oh, my worst Christmas Eve this year. Just gone, blackout drunk and got so drunk I was calling people I was. I don't remember getting home. I nearly pulled the curtain rail off of the wall in my parents' bedroom. I woke up at three o'clock in the morning and my room was spinning and I was laying there like oh my God, I've ruined Christmas

A- Like the Grinch.

H- I was laying there like I've no fucking clue how I got here, but the room is spinning. I woke up the next morning and just had to be there like I'm fine, it's fine, I'm fine, and that's why I don't drink wine. 

A- Where were you we out out like a pub or down the way? Yeah, we're down the pub. 

H- No, we're down the pub. Oh gosh, it's in Maldon. Always a messy night in Muldon. Man, it's Muldon for you, muldon, that's Muldon vibes. 

A- So it's common knowledge that I stopped drinking when I was like 20. I believe I was 20. 

H- Can't believe you're telling the story. I am all ears. 

A- There were some, quite. I had some bad drinking experiences in the last few years of me drinking. One of them I was In the last few years. It shows how long you've been drinking for, because legally you could only have been drinking for two years. Oh yeah, I think I my first taste of the nectar, the nectar, my first taste of the nectar. I was 16. It was PIMS. Of course Didn't realise it was alcoholic. Of course you didn't. It all went wrong. It was not okay. But there was this time when I was out. I was at drama school, it was our third year Went out. I had PIMS again and it was obviously spiked because I woke up in hospital. So that was pretty bad. But it came up with some good stories, because apparently I can't remember a thing. But I was at Hoot that night. There's brilliant photos of you, daisy, my friend Daisy. She like wrote down some of the things I said Amazing, I was angry 

H- oh, that's not like you. 

A- I was sassy

H- that is like you. 

A- Yeah, I was many things and I was very vomiting. Oh no, I think I ruined a friend's pair of shoes, which I regret. And then the other experience of mine with the mechter. 

H- I think this is the one that I was expecting. 

A- Now, I'm not going to go into detail, I can't look at you. It feels so silly to talk about. Because basically, in the play that we mentioned earlier, Reasons you shouldn't love me. 

It's like semi autobiographical, but it's very heavily fictionalised and in it there is a version of this story. Holly just made a face of me. It is fictionalised Like there are characters that don't exist in my life. 

H- No, very true

A- and I actually see more of me in some of the other characters than the lead character. 

H- Interesting!

A- yeah, but there is a scene in which the character gets very drunk and it all goes wrong quite dramatically, and some of that is from true life. And if you want to know what happens the play text is available Head to the Nationals Theatre, you'll be able to pick up a copy. Yeah, I haven't really described the story. Should I describe the story? 

H- It's up to you

A- basically very drunk. There was a boy and it ended in the Great Bladder betrayal of 2012. 

H- I feel like one of my friends doesn't like my boyfriend. He's absolutely great, by the way. He's just a bit loud, but it puts me on edge and I'm not sure what to do. Ps, I do not know what to bring up with said friend. It's just a feeling I get from them. 

Not everyone can get on and if they're a true friend, then even if they don't particularly like the person, they'll just get on with it. 

A- They should be like civil Chatty. 

H- Yeah, I think if it's your mate's partner, as long as they're not hurting, like as long as you're not, no one's getting hurt in the situation. There's no toxicity in the situation. You just carry on. 

A- Not everyone can like each other. I just wonder how well they know each other. Have they been in a situation where, like their friend, can get to know their partner? 

H- Yeah, like friendly basis. How is it? Yeah, how much time have they spent together, because it might just take a little bit of warming up. Yeah, possibly it's difficult. 

Like I'm protective over all of my friends, so I'm always going to be there. Like, what do you want, are you? What is your, what is your? I've said to you before, like when you're with someone I'll be there. Like, can I help? You're going to take them down? What are your intentions? Yeah, I think maybe get them in a social situation and see what vibe she gets. Y

A- Yeah, have drinks, like let loose a little bit. Everyone chill out. 

H- Mutual ground, also in a group setting might be nice. Mutual, neutral, neutral, neutral, neutral and mutual. Yeah, maybe in a group setting would be good. So it's not like the three of you, so it's not intense. So it's still a little bit intense. I mean, that's fine for a lot of like couples. 

A- Yeah, so social gathering may be the way forward. I feel like I've really infiltrated, or I've tried to infiltrate and attach myself to most of my couple friends. 

H- Oh, believe me, with Sean and Em, I'm called Polly Holly. Yeah, yeah, polly Amorous Holly

A- I got it. I got it. 

H-No, I'm just telling the people I don't know their education. 

a TV show you'd love to be a part of. I'm guessing this is like reality. 

A- I want to say Bake Off 

H- Strictly

A- A lot of work

H- I know, but I'd love it. Imagine me and Johannes Jojo. 

A- Yeah, oh yeah. Imagine that as a duo. 

H-Yeah, the campest Strictly has ever seen Strictly. Yeah, that's quite a song. So, camp, I'd love that. 

A- Strictly would be really cool. 

H- No, wait, wait, wait, what, what? Taskmaster? 

A- Oh, yeah, you could be on there. 

H- I'd be sick on Taskmaster

A- you love it. You do love it. 

H- I'd be so, I wouldn't. It'd be awful. I'd do worse than Nish Kumar. Little reference for all of the Taskmaster fans out there yeah, yeah, taskmaster. Or Strictly

A- okay, wait, can I? I just want to say I really love a place in the sun. Okay, you could go on that anyway. Okay, I'll do that. They'd love to have you on there. I haven't got the money for another place. 

H- None of them do? They just go there for a free holiday? 

A- Oh, in that case

H- should we go together and pretend we're a couple? 

A- Yeah, okay, can we have a huge, huge argument, 100%.

H- Imagine how quickly they would like they'd snap you up. We'd be there like, hello, we're a lesbian couple and Amy's in a wheelchair. 

A- They'd be like yes, come to Spain. 

H- Amy Trigg

A- holly Hostelweiss. 

H - We still have multiple questions here. 

A- Oh boy, oh boy. 

H- So you know what we're going to do. What are we going to do? We're going to do a part two on your ass. So next episode we're coming back with part two. 

A- How exciting

H- how exciting. 

A- Holly Hostelweiss, 

H- amy Trigg

A- love you bye. 

H- Love you bye. 

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